Julio Rodriguez, general secretary of Podemos seen speaking during the debate. Debate on the so-called "sewers of the State", that is to say, espionage carried out by the former commissioner Villarejo who, in recent weeks, has taken over the tv programs to create evidence or reports that blame political opponents of the Government of Mariano Rajoy.

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